Snakk

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The first few days of May are literally the only time I am home until like August. And I really had been looking forward to it, probably the main reason being that I could play the new LiL update and now I find out it is delayed all the way to around when I'm leaving again.
It's all so tiresome.
Screw you Sel.
 
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barglenarglezous

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So first the shitty Fan Fest, then delays, and then he's going on a break IIRC, this guy is trying his hardest to piss people off or something, was Fan Fest not basically a break, from what I can tell it shouldn't have taken much time in that entire month to do the things he did for Fan Fest. It amazes me sometimes how he manages to be one of the best developers KK game wise but also be the shittiest one as a person at the same time... (Like yeah I get medical stuff is important, but dude if you were going to have these appointments, maybe don't do a shit fucking Fan Fest nobody wanted in the first place...?)
How dare someone I'm not paying take a vacation, or go to the doctor, or *check notes* provide the exact kind of content the people paying him specifically said they wanted.
 

Rincon

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How dare someone I'm not paying take a vacation, or go to the doctor, or *check notes* provide the exact kind of content the people paying him specifically said they wanted.
I can't be for sure since I never cared much at the time, but wasn't it mostly up to the higher paying tiers if this Fan Fest would happen? And if so a majority didn't even have a say and would have probably preferred something like... oh I don't know actual fucking content? I don't care at all for what you have to say honestly. And I didn't say he isn't allowed to go to the doctor, I get that's important so that's fine, but this year is all around seemingly lacking of actual content
 
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jclark1337

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I can't be for sure since I never cared much at the time, but wasn't it mostly up to the higher paying tiers if this Fan Fest would happen? And if so a majority didn't even have a say and would have probably preferred something like... oh I don't know actual fucking content? I don't care at all for what you have to say honestly. And I didn't say he isn't allowed to go to the doctor, I get that's important so that's fine, but this year is all around seemingly lacking of actual content
No, all paying tiers could vote. I remember because I could vote and I'm only paying for the basic tier. (I was vastly outnumbered.)

You are absolutely free to complain and I won't try to take that away from you. After all this forum sometimes acts like a refuge from the anti-criticism tendencies of the official discord. That being said, we got some surprisingly good stuff from Fanfest all things considered. In my eyes if he needs a break to be able to focus on his writing 100% then I'm okay with it even if it a bit disappointing. It's better than him burning out and never finishing the story at least.
 

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Although I share the frustration of having a month of FanFest, a minor delay for the next release, and the incoming break - I have always said that this is a place where we can both criticize and praise Selebus. And, this time, I don't share the overly judgemental view on him.

Did I want the FanFest? Certainly not. But he has been writing LiL for what? 5 years? He wanted to spend an entire month goofing off with his own creation, he asked the people that pay him, and they gave him the "go for it". So, I mean, nothing wrong there. For the medical stuff, well, that's just ludicrous - medical stuff happens. You're fine one day, the next you have an accident and boom, can't work for weeks/months. And the breaks themselves are planned.

I will say though that I agree that the timing is off. Were the Fanfest to become a thing, it would ideally be in the middle of the release cycle, not right before a break. (Fanfest -> seasonal content -> break) is an awful plan.
 

Rincon

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No, all paying tiers could vote. I remember because I could vote and I'm only paying for the basic tier. (I was vastly outnumbered.)

You are absolutely free to complain and I won't try to take that away from you. After all this forum sometimes acts like a refuge from the anti-criticism tendencies of the official discord. That being said, we got some surprisingly good stuff from Fanfest all things considered. In my eyes if he needs a break to be able to focus on his writing 100% then I'm okay with it even if it a bit disappointing. It's better than him burning out and never finishing the story at least.
I'd have preferred him take an actual break then if that's what he needs, I just don't see the point in stuff that doesn't really affect the actual story what so ever, that's my main issue with it.

edit: I never said he isn't allowed to go to his appointments or anything and I'm perfectly fine with the delay for that, because then there wouldn't be more if something actually happened to him. I just don't think this year has been the greatest content amount wise if you get what I mean, so that's why I'm a bit more judgmental with all the random stuff, then delay, and then break right after it all. He can have all the breaks he wants I'm not against that I want to make that clear, especially if it concerns his health and desire to continue the game. But just as much as he is allowed that, I am allowed to feel a bit upset at the lack of content this year.
 
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thebadpastor

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To be fair, you did say;

(Like yeah I get medical stuff is important, but dude if you were going to have these appointments, maybe don't do a shit fucking Fan Fest nobody wanted in the first place...?)
which kind of did imply you weren't fine with the delay for that and felt their was some mismanagement on his end so I think that's why people have responded pointing to that part specifically lol he probably didn't know he'd have medical appointments when he decided to do the fanfest.

I'm with you as far as the fanfest goes mind, I said it myself before but sandwiching a Dorm between a break and fanfest is probably gonna suck. I'm just hoping Sensei gets a lot of 1 on 1 time with people at this point, but seeing Death Ball and Good Kid in the previews has filled me with dread
 

barglenarglezous

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I'd have preferred him take an actual break then if that's what he needs, I just don't see the point in stuff that doesn't really affect the actual story what so ever, that's my main issue with it.

edit: I never said he isn't allowed to go to his appointments or anything and I'm perfectly fine with the delay for that, because then there wouldn't be more if something actually happened to him. I just don't think this year has been the greatest content amount wise if you get what I mean, so that's why I'm a bit more judgmental with all the random stuff, then delay, and then break right after it all. He can have all the breaks he wants I'm not against that I want to make that clear, especially if it concerns his health and desire to continue the game. But just as much as he is allowed that, I am allowed to feel a bit upset at the lack of content this year.
The FanFest wasn't about abreak. It was about celebrating 5 years of the game. Which is a perfectly reasonable thing to want to do (especially because this game being successful allowed him to quit his day job). I get it that you don't care for the content he made in that time (I don't either), but that's literally what the people paying his mortgage told him they wanted.

And he put out content every day, didn't he (honest question, I didn't pay attention to it)? That's still work. Even if I hate the content, he's still putting it out.

And as someone who isn't paying him a dime, I don't feel that it's worth having the energy to be bitter about it. I have a finite number of hours left on this earth, I can't be bothered to be angry about a delay in a game I'm not paying for. Especially when there are much more important things going on right now that I can spend my outrage on.
 

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I'm with you as far as the fanfest goes mind, I said it myself before but sandwiching a Dorm between a break and fanfest is probably gonna suck. I'm just hoping Sensei gets a lot of 1 on 1 time with people at this point, but seeing Death Ball and Good Kid in the previews has filled me with dread
I haven't gone out of my way to check much of the previews, but it seems this Dorm War might actually be decent... what between the seemingly one on one Io time, and the fact Rin is peak hotness again, I'll give it just a slight chance to not piss me off this time, atrX didn't at all deserve the slander that was very obviously forced into the last Dorm War.
 
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I haven't gone out of my way to check much of the previews, but it seems this Dorm War might actually be decent... what between the seemingly one on one Io time, and the fact Rin is peak hotness again, I'll give it just a slight chance to not piss me off this time, atrX didn't at all deserve the slander that was very obviously forced into the last Dorm War.
That's the person who made Lost in You, right? Was that who the weird rip-off tangent was about? I haven't played the game so I was curious about that lol

And yeah, I'm equal parts optimistic/pessimistic at this point. The fact that Sensei's involved is the main thing, as long as we get some 1 on 1 time with a few of the girls I'll probably be happy. After 0.48 I'm quite keen to see how Sensei and Yumi interact moving forward and I don't wanna have to wait 3+ months for them to have another conversation lol
 

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That's the person who made Lost in You, right? Was that who the weird rip-off tangent was about? I haven't played the game so I was curious about that lol
Yes that was the developer of Lost in You, the one who now canonically exists inside of LiL because of a stupid rant that makes no sense because LiL and LiY are both their own games with their own stories, to the point where atrX made his own version of the "don't compare my game about X to DDLC" like Selebus has, I'm sure you can find the post I'm talking about somewhere in these forums or on the Discord.

edit: found the things I mentioned
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